(From The Red Light District album; 2004)
Tonight's winning pub quiz question: which rapper inspired the over-familiar local rap CEO who Ludacris finds lurking in the men's toilet in Get Back's video? Answer: Mac Dre, with the video being based on an actual IRL chance encounter between the 2 rappers at some point during 2004.
Allegedly, the story unfurls summat like this: Ludacris is in Oakland for a show and is taking a slash in the venue's backstage bathroom when a pilled-up Mac Dre approaches him outlining a plan for Playaz Circle to release an album on Thizz Entertainment, and an invitation for Luda to come to his studio to record a song together. Ludacris politely declines both offers, but is so bemused by Mac Dre's demeanour he decides to recreate an elaborated version of events in his next single's video, in which the director Spike Jonze hires Fatlip from The Pharcyde to impersonate Dre. Mac Dre doesn't even get an opportunity to give Ludacris the Little Bruce treatment as payback because Def Jam drops the Get Back video a mere 8 days after Dre's death in november 2004. To this very day, Mac Dre's close friends like PSD are still furious with Ludacris (though PSD had previous issues), and Luda can count himself very lucky he never found himself alone in a bathroom with Mac Minister (no George Michael.)
Who emerges from this unfortunate tale with the least dirt on their hands - Ludacris for poking fun an intoxicated Oakland underground legend trying to network with a bonafide star? Def Jam for releasing a video mocking a recently deceased rapper? Fatlip for metaphorically stabbing a fellow west coast rapper in the back? Or Mac Dre for not observing the proper etiquette when tryna discuss business in a public toilet?
36 comments:
Great post.
Never realised that was Fatlip.
Luda had hits but MD has more guitar covers of his songs on youtube so I'm sorry Luda but there's only one winner here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vZSTSw4xqo
RYM Snitch in the house.
Need Siccness Snitch up in here too.
Holy fuck Marty, ya really comin with the heat right here. Quality rap journalism relevant to old AND yung heds!
Netz is waiting on your Oral History of Messy Marv Beefs post, m8.
Man this post is a classic.
The spirit of Mac Dre's getback is def in the bathroom showdown scene in Hustle & Flow.
That scene had even more "mane"s than Beanie's verse on What We Do.
rewatched it recently and Hustle & Flow - goat rap flick?
Wild Style is more or less a documentary w some ramshackle fiction tacked on, Style Wars just is one, Paid In Full feels like a rap flick but isnt rly, Belly & Baller Blockin are just made by rap ppl. Fear of A Black Hat & CB4 have their moments, Juice is good, has the best theme ever n the same fantastical movie magic representation of how the musics made/performed as Hustle & Flow but thats basically just about a rappers career w Howard & Taraji career best performances n the Three 6 soundtrack used perfectly.
Not tryna say "A to the K" etc isnt classic, mind. s/o Krush Groove & Death Of A Dynasty
Hustle & Flow OST highly notable for me as it was where I first heard Boosie.
I need to watch Tougher Than Leather again sometime just to see if the Beatbox version of Treat Her Like A Prostitute actually does feature in the movie somewhere.
dunno if Ive ever seen Tougher Than Leather actually.
Its a shame Three 6 beef likely prevented a Skinny Pimp or Playa Fly cameo or w e
holy shit i never knew any of this
The fact that Luda only ever made 1 or 2 decent songs after this was definitely karma, imho.
Although maybe the Get Back video was karma for Dre mocking Little Bruce's crippled grandma + threatening to piss on his dead dad's tombstone in the Little Bitch song linked in the post?
This post is gonna get Ludacris banned from the bay lolol
I'm just tryna put the TM into TMZ.
This is ludicrous!
Also, call ME ludicrous, but I wish Fatlip would have a little dignity. (I do listen to Freaky Pumps a fair amount, though. It’s a good song for the car!)
The bass on Freaky Pumps 😨
I have fielded some complaints about that, actually.
That Spike Jonze Fatlip documentary was a trip
I knew that was a mac dre diss!fuck luda!
Fuc luda Patna this the bay northern California. Luda could never be as raw as Mac dre was. He just lost all respect from me. He ain't shit but a bitch. And when he die I ain't gonna say rip fuc luda.
HAA!! look at Fatlip!! hahaha i never realized that was him! lol i knew from the gate they was clownin dre tho.
Fuc luda, bay bound. He aint got shit on hood niggas.
Niggas dick ridin a dead dude like he was yo brother. If he was alive they'd probably he squashed it already. it was nothing more than a diss to the Mac, just so happened he ended up losing his life shortly after the video was made. So what. I don't see Luda as bein a disrespectful punk like that. I'm from Northern California and I will say, that lyrically, Luda has light years on Mac Dre. Neither of em are bitches, i think the video was just to talk shit. Not to taunt his loved once after he departed. You MFS are straight dick riders.
This shit is FAKE. Luda never even mentioned Dre in the diss and we would have heard something from J Diggs, Miami the Most, Dubee etc. I don't believe it.
that is foul and funny style because u dissed a bay area legend by declining his gesture and he died 8 days later u should have just kept that shyt to yo self cuz u might be marked in the bay now clown and its foul cuz that would have been a big move for fhe bay thats y we gt our on shyt our on lane we dont fuk wt tha main stream yall gta fuck wit us
The Lil Bruce diss is so vicious
Having a conversation with a man while his pissing is weird and disrespectful. Luda didn't need him. Atl took the rap game and Luda get movie money and creating products.
Ludacris had beef with pretty black too when he started dating Shawnna
I think ludacris had nothing to do with that he didnt want to do anything that would cause beef so i said no.people dont know how to except the word no
disturbing tha peace
https://twitter.com/Ludacris/status/859915145803292672
Yeah, I saw that.
This post has gone hella viral.
I'm a bay area raised Mac Dre fan! i was a huge ludacris fan until i researched more into this..he ain't have to diss my nigga tho.. and to release it right after the man dies.. sorry but that's some b***h s**t.. sorry luda..u lost true fan..NEVer go against Mac Dre son.. what's wrong wit u...RIP Mac Dre..
Why the hell did Mac Dre approach this man in the bathroom like a male groupie? If he was so big and the shit in the bay why didn’t promoters bring him around ludacris?he didn’t know any radio people he just walked up to a major artist while pissing and thought they was gonna work together man lol
Seriously…and who approaches someone in the bathroom and expects to do business ?
Don King!
Like men dont talk in bathrooms bruh come on we are all grown Luda prob jealous cause Mac Dre swag and energy was way ahead of Ludacris time and he don't respect the independent hustle of the rap game.
Puppets aren't impressed by CEO boss tycoons like MAC DRE 💯
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