Tuesday, 12 July 2022

New York Strait Talk

Don't you hate when New Yorkers try to discredit Rap music from other regions like "we don't listen to that here"? California and Tennessee must have been devastated that the city who bought multiple albums by Das EFX and Drag-On didn't give any play to Suga Free's Street Gospel and Project Pat's Ghetty Green. Ironically, New Yorkers tend to have terrible taste in their own Rap music let alone Rap music from other regions. Lest we forget that New Yorkers prefered Fat Joe to the rest of D.I.T.C and anointed Mos Def as the savior of Real Hip-Hop™. Lest we also forget that New Yorkers put their industry weight behind the likes of Mims and Maino when Max B was hiding in plain sight. And these are the authoritarians whose taste we're supposed to defer to? LMFAO.

In hindsight, it was obvious that New Yorkers were unreliable authorities on their own Rap music when they ignored Whodini's I'm A Ho and The Showboys Drag Rap and left it to California and New Orleans to recognise the brilliance of both songs. If we can pinpoint the moment when New York's superiority complex became a worldwide laughing stock it was 2012 when the city decided A$AP Ferg made music which was remotely listenable. After that, Rap fans only looked to New York to see what was poppin' there and then ran in the opposite direction. I bet that makes New Yorkers real mad, don't it? But I bet New Yorkers can't find a single lie in this post.

BTW, no shotz @ Maino. He wasn't competition when him and Max B were contemporaries in the late noughties, but he did have three undeniable jams back then: Role Model shoulda been the Broken Language of 2008, Hi Hater transformed Money (Dollar Bill Y'all) into some post-Jigginess, and Rumors is the G.O.A.T Dead Perez gossip song of that era. "I was readin' the daily news where they said they had flicks of Lloyd Banks havin' sex with a hairy dude" is a helluva lyric.

Maino - Rumors
(From Real Recognize Real mixtape/DVD; 2005)



Pity nobody has ever identified the sample on Rumors because it sounds like it comes from the nastiest Spaghetti Western ever.

9 comments:

Ben said...

No lies spoken here.

Kelvin Mack10zie said...

Fake Suge in the Rumors video is the best fake Suge imho.

Spartan said...

More than likely wrong here, but the bell from Rumours sounds like it might have been taken from Morricone's Il Colpo to me.

Kelvin Mack10zie said...

Hmm does sound pretty similar, just pitched up on Rumors.

Yohan said...

Interested to know which specific interaction or publication sparked this response.

I obviously also agree. I find myself riding for underappreciated or blatantly ignored stone cold (Southern) classics all day, such as 1992-1993 UGK, 1989-1993 Mac Dre, 1999-2006 Project Pat etc., while certain bog standard boring N.Y. releases get expansive thinkpieces dedicated to them.

I'm not sure in which circles you still encounter N.Y. biases though, most young bucks to a certain extent seem to have forgone regional rap scenes and cast a much wider net than 10-20 years ago.

In the end, the same (amount of) tepid bullshit is still being elevated to classic status though. It's like someone put a death penalty on having a personality nowadays. Or maybe I'm finally a true old head though, hating from the outside looking in.

Kelvin Mack10zie said...

These types definitely do still exist 😆 Never underestimate how New Yorkers stay gassed off their own fumes.

Also, never forget that New Yorkers keep Peter Rosenberg employed in a job where he's billed as a "Hip-Hop expert."

CrowleyHead said...

Honestly the worst is fake New Yorkers (given Rosenberg is actually from New England he absolutely counts). There was a guy on twitter who I'm p. sure was from France who kept insisting that people who liked No Limit were being ironic 3 years ago and like... OK, I'm as guilty as rolling eyes at someone trying to tell me about how respected MC Breed is as any other of my fellow trogs from The 5 Boroughs... But pretending the Tank didn't have good rappers?!?

Kelvin Mack10zie said...

Right, guys who aren't New Yorkers but who parrot New Yorkers terrible opinions are the true W.O.A.T.

Kelvin Mack10zie said...

Other hometown indiscretions by New Yorkers:

Not acknowledging The Beatnuts as one of the best groups of their era because they "weren't lyrical."

Not realising that WAKA is the G.O.A.T NY Drill song.