Tuesday, 6 October 2015

Rap & Bullshit: conventional rap history narratives that are a load of bollox (part 2)

"Run D.M.C's Sucker MC's made a whole generation of rappers irrelevant!"


More oft-repeated poppycock. Firstly, by 1983 rap had already splintered into a handful of sub-genres which could exist symbiotically. Secondly, rather than making a whole generation of rappers irrelevant, it provoked the Furious Five and the Coldcrush Brothers into recording their best studio songs as groups: Step Off and Fresh, Fly, Wild, And Bold, the former being a top 10 pop hit across Europe. Thirdly, Melle Mel, Kool Moe Dee, and Spoonie Gee all had their biggest hits post-Sucker MC's: Beat Street Breakdown, I Feel For You, How Ya Like Me Now, Wild Wild West, and The Godfather.

This ain't to say that Sucker MC's wasn't a game changer, but its impact has been vastly exaggerated by those glib critics who want to spin the story of 80s rap in neat 'n' tidy generational shifts and grand Slay Thy Father gestures. Anyone caught propagating this horseshit from this point forth should be forced to review Rev Run's appalling 2005 solo album Distortion for the rest of eternity once they depart this spinning chunk of granite and water. Raise Hell on that thought, suckers.

12 comments:

THE GUY said...

PRINCE VINCE

Piff said...

Or listen to Diggy Simmons

Si Mane Price said...

One thing I've always wanted to know is whether Spoonie Gee's The Big Beat was a dry-run for Sucker MC's or Spoonie asking Davy DMX if he could have some of that too?

Rap is so badly documented during those early years that the chronologies of releases are impossible to determine now. Ettelthun could probably ask Aaron Fuchs but Fuchs would probably try and claim The Big Beat was recorded in 1978.

breakin brad said...

good point about "step off" and "fresh, fly"

d said...

recently came across this pic

http://www.vincentgallo.com/photos/music/snoop.html

very curious how the 90s Snoop & Prince Vince convo went down

Si Mane Price said...

Imagine if Gallo had starred in Training Day instead of Ethan Hawke.

d said...

Gallo>>>>King Kong. Ive only seen him in 2 films and seen like 4 interviews and hes in my top 5 permanantly

Si Mane Price said...

Buffalo 66 and.. ?

Johnny Rap said...

You started a trend... Rap Lies

http://www.acclaimmag.com/music/country-old-rap-men-lies-old-rap-fans-will-tell/

Si Mane Price said...

I've liberally nicked ideas from EttelThun before, he's more than welcome to return the favour.

Plus, that column deals with more general tall tales, while my posts are focused on specific songs.

d said...

The Funeral, I had to see it after hearing him accuse Ferrara of being cracked out holed up in his trailer the whole shoot.

What a sucker punch. rly made me like Chris Penn too.

Si Mane Price said...

Shout out to Annabella Sciorra.

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