(From YouTube; 2015)
Rapping like Dru Down and Juvenile at the SAME DAMN TIME seems to be the wave in certain areas of Detroit right now because this So Crazy track by Pablo Skywalkin's sidekick Damn Dlo is like a less beserker version Pablo's own All Facts:
(From YouTube; 2013)
That whole off-beat/over-the-lines scorched parrot-flow seems to be a Detroit wave in general with everyone from Big Sean to Danny Brown to Doughboyz Cashout usually employing some sort of variation of it. Alas, ya boy is a layabout when it comes to the whereabouts and thereabouts of Detroit rap so I know next to nothing about the origins of the city's rap styles. Anyone care to drop knowledge?
Good point.
ReplyDeleteDetroit rappers nowadays seem to either be Blade Icewood ripoffs or Big Herk wannabes.
ReplyDeleteI was listening to Clones today and dawned on me that thing about Pharrell getting people to model their flows on 80s songs is all over it. not even overt remakes like Its Tricky, Rock & Roll is I think Top Billin or Too Short or something, I heard 6 N The Mornin, Hot is another one, cant place it though. I counted 5 or 6, its basically a showcase of this shit
ReplyDeleteWhen I walk into my room I just f**kin' laugh
ReplyDelete'Cause I got more f**kin' belts than a karate class
Yeah I complained about the fact that no one's asked Big Sean about his flow when I was on Stay Hatin...I also suspect this links back in some ways to J Dilla's production style, which was also sorta against the groove, rhythmically—or finding the complex rhythms in intentionally missing the beat
ReplyDeletein some ways as much as pablo skywalkin is obviously against the beat, i almost prefer how Yae Yae Jordan—recently convicted to 3+ decades behind bars—made the off-beat style work, in the margins between intentional & sloppy, rather than making it so obviously a trick (and therefore, potentially, a gimmick). I think it also explains why Keef was interested in him (And I can't help but wonder about Keef's own offbeat rap style in this midwest milieu as well).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBUn6Qf0zxM
https://youtu.be/mm9yU5fySv4
ReplyDeleteThey even have their own Roach Gigz in the last dude that raps.
Also really big fan of the YouTube comment: "lol these niggas high fived tho"
I don't claim to know more than the next man about detroit flow history, but All Facts sounds more like like Lil' B Bitch Mob than anybody from detroit i've heard, maybe i haven't heard the right people tho. but shit its the 2010s now, rappers don't have to be influenced by people from their hometown anymore, right?
ReplyDeleteLil' B - Watch Wit Da Scope
I don't think it's quite as "post-regional" as folks might think though—the Bay and Detroit have a long history of collaboration. Dej Loaf's record broke in the Bay, not in her hometown; Pablo Skywalkin's whole schtick is like off-beat E-40.
ReplyDeletePablo's appeared on a couple of Philthy Rich songs too (where I first heard him), although every man & his dog has guested on Philthy Rich's shit so I suppose you can't gleam too much from that.
ReplyDeleteTotally fucked up how All Facts isn't on Pablo's album/no MP3 of it exists other than YouTube rips on Soundcloud when it's by far his best song.