tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post434545360804468659..comments2024-03-28T15:39:44.691+00:00Comments on THE MARTORIALIST: Just sayin', bruv #10Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-16156174751037429012015-05-21T05:05:12.988+01:002015-05-21T05:05:12.988+01:00Ey just wanna say that barter vi has grown on me a...Ey just wanna say that barter vi has grown on me a lot the past few weeksRickhttp://redlitedj.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-63172775956978893502015-05-01T13:09:49.437+01:002015-05-01T13:09:49.437+01:00Donal, Keep It Real is Young Bleed.Donal, <i>Keep It Real</i> is Young Bleed.Kelvin Mack10ziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17520899595495383643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-35294934089924345352015-04-29T21:29:43.947+01:002015-04-29T21:29:43.947+01:00Zwoop nation said...
"Florida Water was the o...Zwoop nation said...<br />"Florida Water was the only good song on Black Portland (not counting Danny Glover)."<br /><br />"Let's Go Play" is better than most of '1017 thug'.<br /><br />"Who capitalized on that tape?" <br /><br />You mean other than 808 Mafia? How about Bloody Jay?<br /><br />"What people jumped all over it that weren't talking about him before?"<br /><br />The NY Times? Robert Christgau?<br /><br /><br />"People posted about that tape saying Future was a collaborator when they took a voice sample of it. People didn't even listen to the tape before claiming it was great."<br /><br />No argument here.<br /><br />"When did Thug say he was releasing a "cohesive project" before the Lil Wayne / Birdman tension? Long before the PFork review came out I said this. The logic behind arguing "this is good because it doesn't have X, Y and Z" is questionable."<br /><br />I don't understand what you're arguing here. The initial response to "Barter 6" was very mixed. Everyone was expecting hits & he didn't deliver. No one said Thug SAID he planned it that way, it just seems obvious listening to it: these are songs w/ clear effort & artistic labor, but no big singles. Martorialist maintains it's filler to keep buzz going while saving the hits for the album; I'm suggesting it's that, but also a conscious argument in favor of Thug as more than a 'hitmaker' or 'weirdo,' but an artist trying to 'say something' so 2 speak.<br /><br />"What I still replay from 1017 Thug: Shooting Star, I'm Fo Real, Picture Baby, Miss U, Fuck With It."<br /><br />Cool. What I replay from "Barter VI": All but the TI/Boosie song.<br />Davidhttp://somanyshrimp.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-52261858516548229052015-04-29T19:19:44.860+01:002015-04-29T19:19:44.860+01:00taking ones w intros out levels it a good bit
LIQ...taking ones w intros out levels it a good bit<br /><br />LIQ<br />Runs House<br />Lord Willin intro, good opening trifecta aswell<br />Return off Super Tight<br />Resurrection <br />Do It Like A GO<br /><br />just thought, Chuck D being Cubes fav rapper extends to the opening line on albums aswell, they both have no comp there imo except maybe Rakim<br /><br />Whos Keep It Real?dhttp://bothkinds.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-2069666710221996992015-04-29T19:08:17.733+01:002015-04-29T19:08:17.733+01:00Florida Water was the only good song on Black Port...Florida Water was the only good song on Black Portland (not counting Danny Glover). Who capitalized on that tape? What people jumped all over it that weren't talking about him before? People posted about that tape saying Future was a collaborator when they took a voice sample of it. People didn't even listen to the tape before claiming it was great.<br /><br />When did Thug say he was releasing a "cohesive project" before the Lil Wayne / Birdman tension? Long before the PFork review came out I said this. The logic behind arguing "this is good because it doesn't have X, Y and Z" is questionable. <br /><br />What I still replay from 1017 Thug: Shooting Star, I'm Fo Real, Picture Baby, Miss U, Fuck With It.Zwoop nationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07748637697338032217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-53112329984528454362015-04-29T18:58:22.205+01:002015-04-29T18:58:22.205+01:00Better Off Dead is technically AmeriKKKa's Mos...<i>Better Off Dead</i> is technically <i>AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted</i>'s opening track so <i>The N*gga Ya Love To Hate</i> disqualified, imo.<br /><br />Best opening songs I can currently think of (not including intro tracks which is a whole 'nother conversation:<br /><br />Follow The Leader<br />All For One<br />Mo City Don (Freestyle)<br />Straight Outta Compton<br />Keep It Real<br />Srictly Business<br />Krystal Karrington<br />Feelin' Myself<br />Poetry<br />Show Ya Tattoos<br />Road To The Riches<br />Never BlinkKelvin Mack10ziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17520899595495383643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-61391086196738411592015-04-29T18:03:31.960+01:002015-04-29T18:03:31.960+01:00whats the goat opening song though, Amerikkkas Mos...whats the goat opening song though, Amerikkkas Most Wanted? dhttp://bothkinds.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-6317426250277302832015-04-29T17:59:14.103+01:002015-04-29T17:59:14.103+01:00Criminal Minded and Mississippi The album start o...Criminal Minded and Mississippi The album start off dead strong<br /><br />dhttp://bothkinds.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-52555975353378680302015-04-29T17:47:25.877+01:002015-04-29T17:47:25.877+01:00The Leak was a more accomplished grand artistic st...The Leak was a more accomplished grand artistic statement than Carter 3 and has better songs. T-Wayne & A Milli grew on me though<br /><br />The kind of people still rly into the numbers game always put a lot of significance in if somethings an "album" or "single" or not against all common sense its maddhttp://bothkinds.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-55375452170157755332015-04-29T17:28:34.862+01:002015-04-29T17:28:34.862+01:00Lol if there wasn't a high profile pitchfork r...Lol if there wasn't a high profile pitchfork review touting it as best new music you guys wouldn't be taking this reactionary stance now <br /><br />Black Portland wasn't a "disaster" it was a producer capitalizing on the rappers rising buzz. And the critics who jumped on board for that weren't ones who'd paid much attention to him previously. And this is still an official thug project. The idea that it's just capitalizing off the beef is stupid, there are ideas and quality records on here<br /><br />Unpredictability is a part of his appeal but imo this is still the most listenable young thug project front to back, you're lying if you're telling me you still play "1017 thug", that shit was fun and creative but it's replay value is extremely sketchy. Davidhttp://somanyshrimp.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-58319570066448221952015-04-29T15:40:56.506+01:002015-04-29T15:40:56.506+01:00I've gone right off Numbers now - Constantly H...I've gone right off <i>Numbers</i> now - <i>Constantly Hating</i> is my new second favourite after <i>Halftime</i>.Kelvin Mack10ziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17520899595495383643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-50367759112556859432015-04-29T15:23:08.371+01:002015-04-29T15:23:08.371+01:00I said the same thing - people acted the same way ...I said the same thing - people acted the same way when Black Portland dropped. It was popular to hype Young Thug, so they acted like Black Portland wasn't the disaster that it really was. The Barter 6 is obviously a collection of tracks Thug had left over and rushed out to capitalize on the Lil Wayne "Beef," knowing that he could sell some records from the controversy. It's really pretty insane for people to try and claim that it was a grand cohesive artistic statement.Zwoop nationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07748637697338032217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-63882838050505775132015-04-29T09:55:41.448+01:002015-04-29T09:55:41.448+01:00Only Built 4 Cuban Linx got a couple of trifectas....Only Built 4 Cuban Linx got a couple of trifectas.L.Ahttp://www.lostartshop.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-29814489828444828332015-04-29T03:37:19.772+01:002015-04-29T03:37:19.772+01:00amen on barter vi, cohesiveness alone isn't a ...amen on barter vi, cohesiveness alone isn't a great accomplishment. i think it's getting acclaim partially because it's his least offensive release (sonically and otherwise) which is a shortcoming, not an asset.<br /><br />also i don't think of thug as a hitmaker i think of him as wild and unpredictable and, like the man said, with 2 or 3 exceptions barter vi is neither.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06849709495679260229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-42991811364681952672015-04-28T22:01:43.681+01:002015-04-28T22:01:43.681+01:00It takes a lot for me to listen to an albumtape fr...It takes a lot for me to listen to an albumtape front to back in 2015 but I did enjoy Barter 6. Only complaint really is that it's difficult to get too excited about 9 new young thug songs when he dropped 200+ tracks last year. 9 new songs could have been any week in 2014 <br /><br />hotboxhttp://www.twitter.com/hotboxbeatsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-57534686297014802042015-04-28T08:51:46.637+01:002015-04-28T08:51:46.637+01:00Straight Outta Compton's opening trifecta is i...<i>Straight Outta Compton</i>'s opening trifecta is in 5th place. 4th place is <i>The Ruler's Back</i>, <i>Children's Story</i>, and <i>The Moment I Feared</i> from the Slick Rick debut.<br /><br />AZ definitely has more good music than Nas since Nas was a near-total bust last decade and AZ had a great run between 2000 - 2007.Kelvin Mack10ziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17520899595495383643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-44887610814015949652015-04-28T03:23:28.902+01:002015-04-28T03:23:28.902+01:00Wot, no 'Straight Outta Compton' for great...Wot, no 'Straight Outta Compton' for greatest opening trifecta?Jerry Hellahttp://www.unkut.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-42502089989041928412015-04-28T01:32:56.573+01:002015-04-28T01:32:56.573+01:00Is it pretty safe to say that AZ has more good mus...Is it pretty safe to say that AZ has more good music than nas cause besides Illmatic and It was written the rest of his discography is pretty inconsistent.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10746543650129861545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-5278398306166847452015-04-28T00:36:38.793+01:002015-04-28T00:36:38.793+01:00idk about 'grand artistic statement' but i...idk about 'grand artistic statement' but i think the thug album is a pretty bold one just in that most ppl see him as a hitmaker rn & he dropped actually dope album tracks instead of chasing pop records<br /><br />at any rate a bullish pfork review will no doubt lead to eventual overrating but it's still about 100x better than black portland soDavidhttp://somanyshrimp.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5006567597939825751.post-11231322796082638422015-04-27T22:11:56.903+01:002015-04-27T22:11:56.903+01:00BACK TO BACK BENZS WITH THE WILD GREMLINSBACK TO BACK BENZS WITH THE WILD GREMLINSTHE GUYnoreply@blogger.com